Anglican church does not allow homosexuality – Archbishop Williams
11 October 2011
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HARARE(ZimEye)The spiritual head of the worldwide Anglican church, Rowan Williams has told Zimbabwe’s president of his church’s theological-position regarding homosexuality.
Speaking during a 93 minute meeting with president Robert Mugabe, Williams poured cold water on conceptions premeditated against his organisation as he said that his church does not allow homosexuality:
“The Anglican Church doesn’t allow homosexuality…” he said.
Continuing in his defence, he however hinted the existence of varied liberal views in the church’s north American branches:
“…but places like the U.S. and Canada have a more relaxed atmosphere. But we regard homosexuals as human beings deserving of love,” Williams said.
Mugabe’s spokesman George Charamba at the weekend had hinted Mugabe would quiz Williams in particular on the issue of sanctions and also the matter of homosexuality.
“The second issue that the President wants this man of God to clarify is why his Anglican Church thinks homosexuality is good for us and why it should be prescribed for us.

Rowan Williams at State House

“He (President Mugabe) thinks the Archbishop will be polite enough to point to him what portion of the Great Book sanctions homosexuality and sanctions sanctions.” President Mugabe has in the past described homosexuals as “worse than pigs and dogs”.
The ZANU PF aligned bishop Norlbet Kunonga led demonstrations against Williams’ visit on Sunday, saying the trip to Malawi, Zambia and Zimbabwe was a “crusade for gays”.
“Rowan Williams erred by accepting homosexuality and that has broken up the Church all over,” Kunonga said on Monday, a day after his supporters held demonstrations denouncing the Englishman.
“It’s sad, they should repent, it needs Williams himself to repent. He is the one who has divided the Church,” he attacked Williams before his arrival.
Denying the allegations on Monday however, Williams said Kunonga’s accusations were “fictitious” and a mere “distracting tactic to take people’s attention from the real problem.”
Archbishop Williams has in the past been quoted stating that the Anglican Church condemns any persecution or violence against homosexuals.
 
Kunonga dribbled
Meanwhile the Anglican church in Zimbabwe reported that Norlbert Kunonga was dribbled when his supporters waited to protest Williams at his arrival under the impression he would arrive by air.
It was reported that he rather arrived by road under a police escort.
A statement was released on Sunday:
“Kunonga’s disciples were left fuming after the Archbishop of Canterbury came into Zimbabwe by road and was escorted by the Zimbabwe Republic Police (ZRP) to Harare. From the Diocesan Office, the Archbishop and the rest of the Bishops were again escorted by the police to and from the City Sports Centre. Kunonga and his friends wanted to demonstrate against the visiting Archbishop but as it turned out, they were snubbed so ended up demonstrating by themselves at the Cathedral for cheap publicity. Anglicans in the CPCA are the victors. The Archbishop’s visit has been a resounding success. We feel encouraged and motivated…”, the statement read in part.
Stop the illegal behaviour
Speaking of his meeiting with Mugabe, Williams said he has requested the President to stop the illegal behaviour of the breakwaway bishop Norbert Kunonga who has siezed hundreds of properties, schools and hospitals.
“We have asked in the clearest possible terms that the president use his powers as head of state to put an end to all unacceptable and illegal behaviour,” Rowan Williams said soon afterwards.
“It was a very candid meeting,” he said.
“Disagreements were expressed clearly, but I think in a peaceful manner.

20 Replies to “Anglican church does not allow homosexuality – Archbishop Williams”

  1. first of all i would like to thank my church for welcoming our archbishop in full that showed devil that u a a lier. To the people of God not
    Only my church we should know and understand how the man of God or a shepherd speaks he dosen’t talk like a politician Kunonga s a politician not a shephered because if u read yr bible carefuly on the mission of a shephered Kunonga s different he make sure sure kuti hwai one or 70 dzikatsauka anotumira mapurisa nemasoja kuzorova dzatsauka kana dzikadyiwa nembwa mwoyo wake unofara. People of my country should know that my church s not divided by there s a worm in my church so as people of God not politicians we dont want to kill the creature but we want to take it out of the church n worship in peace the people of my country should say if all what Kunonga s saying s true why cant he go aside n shout loudly outside our premises if true people will follow him. Pane akambo buda mu coca cola company oti ndavhura company yangu manje momubvunza kuti company yako yawatanga inonzi chii oti inonzi coca cola company arimukati meya arikuti ndabuda do u need to be told that this man s mad i end up saying bravo anglicans satan tasa

  2. vamugabe havadi ma dhisinyoro, zanu yaramba. come elections zanu pf will put everything in order, hapasisina zveku dhindana kumanyowa. kwete vamugabe havadi tsvina munyika yavo

  3. @ Anonymous,
    I don’t comment as reality/facts something that i don’t know and not sure of. So i can’t talk of homosexuals in ZANU-PF whom i don’t know whether they exist or not. It is for people like you, Anonymous to comment since you have ‘proof’ or proof of that. I’ve only heard about that through rumours and street talks from people like you on this forum.
    It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to know that God condemns homosexuality through the Holy Book. Yes, I agree, I can firmly stand and be God’s spokesperson on this whole truth because I know and believe God revealed it in the Bible, which is His Word of Truth and only the Bible has the correct interpretation (read Romans 1:26-32). I don’t want you to assume but i want you to know that i have the correct interpretation of God’s will and i don’t live on/by chances.
    I wonder how some people understand news. The so-called bishop of Canterbury, Williams agreed and admitted that homosexuality is there in Anglican: he further expressed his interest in that these people must be accepted using veiled words ‘they must be loved’. Now is Kunonga wrong in saying the obvious? Is Kunonga’s stance on homosexuality anti-biblical or anti-God? Why are people unable to see this?
    It is a shame that people are insulting Kunonga on the homosexuality issue yet Williams and his bunch of gays and lesbians are supposed to be corrected and be led to repentance.
    Please, Kunonga might be wrong on some and other issues but on homosexuality he is 100% correct. At least you have to appreciate the white colour of a raven.

  4. “Not even homosexuals in ZANU-PF, if there are any, will justify homosexuality as a right act” Sober
    Bruv you seriousely need a dose of reality “if there are any”? Start at the very top of that organisation zanu and work down…
    Whatever happened to “him without sin cast the first stone” yet the rank hypocrisy of zany pf is laid bare when they attack another organisation on the basis of the same evil they themselves posess in scores…
    Since u like to talk of ABOMINATIONS is it Gods will that the Kunonga faction evicts orphaned children, deprives honest folk of a livlihood, preaches hate and divides Gods people? or have u assumed the role of God`s spokesperson mr Sober Are we now to assume that you alone have the correct interpretation of God`s will on earth?

  5. Its funny how some people here support what Kunonga is doing in the name of being anti – gay. What you ought to ask yourself is that, do you think the thousands of people who thronged the city sport center support homosexuality? the answer is obviously no, probably none of them does. then ask yourself which church Kunonga broke away from, if he claims that the Anglican church as a whole supports homosexuality then he should find a new name for his church, most of the churches that were against the gay bishops ordained in America simply cut ties with the American Episcopal church. The Nigerians did that the Church of central Africa to which zim belongs also did that. Bringing us to wonder which church it is that Kunonga is claiming supports Gays that he broke away from. People should not be fooled by this guy. Jus ask yourself which zimbabwean in his normal senses would support homosexuality? if you do that then you will realize that kunonga is jus trying to fool people.

  6. WHAT A BUNCH OF LIES?
    If it were possible for anyone to visit hell and come back to normal life I can assure you the devil’s seat would be found vacant because he is residing at Norlbert Kunonga’s home and in Nolbert Kunonga’s body. Where have you ever seen a man of God with a mission to completely steal from a church and to completely destroy a church.
    This whole homosexuality argument is a veil for the sole purpose of earning Mugabe’s support. Kunonga is a thief and a devil. He claims to be an Arch-Bishop he is in fact an Acrh-Demon.
    Kunonga ndi Satani at full works!
    To further prove that Kunonga enjoys support from Zanu PF satanists and strategists who include Chidyausiki and Chihuri.

  7. If it were possible for anyone to visit hell and come back to normal life I can assure you the devil’s seat would be found vacant because he is residing at Norlbert Kunonga home and in Nolbert Kunonga’s body. Where have you ever seen a man of God with a mission to completely steal from a church and to completely destroy a church.
    This whole homosexuality argument is a veil for the sole purpose of earning Mugabe’s support. Kunonga is a thief and a devil. He claims to be an Arch-Bishop he is in fact an Acrh-Demon.
    Kunonga ndi Satani at full works!
    To further prove that Kunonga he enjoys support from Zanu PF satanists and strategists who include Chidyausiki and Chihuri.

  8. Homosexuality is homosexuality whether done by ZANU-PF or MDC’s. The issue is the fact that IT IS BEING DONE IN THE CHURCH AND IT IS BEING APPROVED BY PEOPLE WHO PROFESS TO BELIEVE IN GOD. Anglican is a religious body not a political party and that makes their position on homosexual of international interest.
    So please, Anglican (and its Williams and bishops) is being judged by God’s moral standards as revealed in the Bible not by human standards.
    Not even homosexuals in ZANU-PF, if there are any, will justify homosexuality as a right act.IT IS EVIL, IT IS AN ABOMINATION.
    THIS IS GOD’S CASE NO APPEAL.
    Homosexual IS EVIL, IT IS AN ABOMINATION.

  9. What about the gays and homos in zanu pf it is full of them – are they proscribed individuals as well? , please mr sober and friends explain your viewpoint vis a vis the homosexuality practiced at the very top of zanu pf or should it be ngochani pf ?

  10. Iwe doesn’tnyongo, when bishop Kunonga was ordained as bishop in this church, the debate on homosexuality had not yet opened by then because few people practised it then. The bishop showed a lot of character by publicly denouncing this inhuman worse than dogs behaviour.

  11. President Cannan Sodindo Banana was the president for the republic of Zimbabwe and he was a homosexual. He sodomised UZ students , soccer players and others included Dube who made headlines in the Herald. Where was Mugabe and Kunonga? Anglican Zimbabwe has not supported Homosexual behaviour at any time and moment. Bishop Kunonga was Bishop of Anglican, Church of England, why did Bishop Kunonga join the Anglican when he knew it supports Homosexuality? When he was sacked that is the only time he realised that Church of England supports Homosexuality. Its a Shame!!!!!

  12. Chegotsi, you bloody murderer justice is watching you, and will trump you soon. the worlm is watching you boy!

  13. I wonder why he is not in Egypt where his flock is being whacked by the moslems. Anglicans being persecuted in Zim? My foot! Where and by whom? We see those things in Egypt and Nigeria only and that should be his destination. Here, the only persons that get whacked are MDC thugs who murder the police. Ndozvaafambira izvozvo kuzo promota varume who ride other men. In that case he should replace Zimhondi at the prisons where desperate men practice that evil religion of sodom and gomorrah.(remember the rampage of that one who temporarily escaped from Nyazura prison? seven rapes in 2 days!)

  14. weather kunonga is right or wrong he should not grab church propert its un Godly, ngaatange zvake

  15. thank you archbishop. i just wish his excellence will take his position as the head of state. mr kunonga is nothing but a thief taking advatage of what is happening in other continents. kunonga WHO IS THE GAY HERE? maybe you are the one. please stop humiliating our party (ZANU PF). just do what Rev Mupindu, Pastor Makandiwa & others did. find your own property people will follow you there.

  16. America and Canada are a bit liberal? Because they are Americans? Rubbish Mr Archbishop Williams. You are not so different from Desmond Tutu. What role should the President play in their row with Cde Archbishop Kunonga, especially now that the whole matter is in the court of law?

  17. Calling homosexuality a liberal view is as good as accepting it. If it is not ALLOWED in the Anglican as your title is suggesting, why is he, Williams failing to denounce it publicly? Why did he, Williams, went on to ‘logically’ admit its existence in the organisation that he heads? Williams and his likeminded people and his Anglicans are enemies of GOD and TRUTH.
    Even if things change in the world, as some say, God’s MORAL STANDARDS doesn’t change and WILL NOT. God is the same from everlasting to everlasting.
    So trying to justify homosexuality with the changing world is not only absurd but evil and an abomination. No matter how gays and lesbians try to justify themselves, THEY ARE AN ABOMINATION to their families, communities and nations.
    The Anglican bishops, Williams included, by siding with these inhuman figures have soiled their garments and that makes them EVIL and an ABOMINATION to the human race, to God and the Church of Christ.
    Homosexuals must know that being gay or lesbian earns one a direct ticket to HELL.
    GOD IS GOD AND HE HATES A TWISTING OF HIS ORDER.

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